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TX50Chevy
05-15-2010, 08:19 PM
Hi, I have a 1950 Chevy I am doing a complete restore on. I am not rich, and am not looking for a OMG show quality paint job. The truck will be garage kept and driven around town is all. That being said, I don't want it to look like crap either. From the forums I have read, most say stay away from Lacquers. From the videos, pictures and reading here, this looks like a simple, affordable paint that looks decent.
My question:
1. I will be working from bare metal. I have heard to use etching primer then filler primer. Looking at the Paintshop system it only lists "Primer". Do I have to purchase a primer outside of the Paint shop system? If so what brand, type? Please be specific. Links are great. Will likely buy from Jegs or my local SW shop.
2. From the videos, it doesn't appear that the color coat was wet sanded? Does this help, or is it needed?
Thanks all.
Dupli-Color-Specialist
05-17-2010, 04:45 PM
Thanks for joining and for the questions. Paint Shop is perfect for your situation. You can get a show stopping paint job from it however it is much cheaper than your average paint job. If you are starting with bare metal then yes an epoxy is the way to go. Next your filler primer and body filler to correct any imperfections. The Paint Shop primer is a general purpose primer that is meant to give a uniform coat so the color coat has an even appearance. It doesn't have any filling capabilities. You can use our aerosol filler primer FP101. We also offer our aerosol Self Etch DAP1690. I would advise you contact your local SW Automotive to help answer your questions.
http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/
You do not need to wet sand the color coat. If there is dirt or any imperfections you can wet sand it out but you must respray the color over that area. The clear coat is what you build up with at least 4-5 good coats. Let that dry for 24-36 hours and letting it sit in the sun would be best. Lacquer dries as the solvents evaporate out of it. Wet sand with 2000 grit until all of the orange peel is out and then buff with 3M Perfect It compound with the wool then the 3M foam pad compound.
Thanks
TX50Chevy
05-17-2010, 05:21 PM
You mentioned a Epoxy. Is there a specific brand I should be looking at?
Dupli-Color-Specialist
05-20-2010, 07:38 PM
You mentioned a Epoxy. Is there a specific brand I should be looking at?
Talk to Sherwin Williams Automotive or browse their site. They will help you with any questions and recommend a sealer/epoxy primer.
Brian,
Epoxy sealer is a real curve ball for me at this point.
I have decided to use Paint Shop on my 68 Mustang because it is easy to shoot, looks great and can be done safely in my garage. It is already stripped to bare metal. I spent some time researching the process and had settled on this -
bare metal: self etch primer / filler primer (sand 180-320, repeat) / primer sealer / paint shop sealer / color / clear
For repairs: body filler / filler primer / (same as above)
BUT - you recommend in this post to use an epoxy primer.
1) Can I shoot is safely in my garage with the home-made paint booth and respirator in your Duplicolor-TV videos?
2) Assuming my steps above are OK, what stage would be replaced with epoxy, and what would be the benefit?
Dupli-Color-Specialist
06-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Jay,
Sorry for the confusion. You are ok with using the Paint Shop primer over the entire vehicle. I only suggested Epoxy Primer because it is the absolute best when it comes to sealing the metal. Most any primer does a great job otherwise. If you are on a budget then yes Paint Shop Primer will work perfect for you over the bare metal. You will need to clean off all bare metal with our wax and grease remover. Also apply all body filler over bare metal first.
Here are your steps: bare metal: body filler first/ prime entire truck with paint shop primer/ filler primer (sand 180-320, repeat) / when body work is done, wet sand with 600 grit/ paint shop primer/ wet sand again with 600 grit/ color / clear
Always use a foam sanding pad when dry and wet sanding. Any local paint shop will have these.
Shavats
12-29-2011, 09:48 AM
This post is*very*informative.*Thank you!
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