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1997civic
08-15-2008, 08:58 PM
Well I have a 97 civic sedan i'm painting.. just the exterior with the door jams and trunk jam aswell, not under the hood. I already bought 2 cans of primer, 2 cans of deep blue paint, one can of metalic and two cans of clear.. but as i've been reading some say you need 4-5 cans of paint and 5-6 of clear..

I was choking at the price i paid just for the two cans of each hah i mean its WAY cheaper than going with other paint but 100 bucks for 5 cans of paint, and 120 for 6 cans of clear, i'd probably have to have about.. atleast 4-5 cans of metalic so another 100, plus 4-5 cans of primer for 100. so... roughly $420 i guess. Urg.. I guess my question is is the number of cans per item about right?

My second question is, even though its a 97 its been abused hardcore, a HUGE dent by the rear window, and a lot of rust in the corner of the 1/4 by the rear bumper. It also needs a new hood before paint.. www.cardomain.com/id/1996civic (its the 1997 civic on there)

The 92 explorer on there is painted in duplicolor bedliner.. but back to the civic..

i'll number the questions because i've scattered them about (sorry)

1. how many cans of primer
2. how many cans of paint
3. how many cans of metalic
4. how many cans of clear
5. should i also use a sealer primer, and if so how many cans
6. what is the proper procedure to paint the door jams, do you paint the exterior first then the door jams or have the doors open and mask it alll off?
7. do you need to wetsand after every color coat?
8. how many color coats do you need?
9. do you need to wetsand after every clear coat?
10. how many clear coats?
11. I have seen that some people use a primer coat and covering it with another color primer to sand to get the panels straight, should you do that before the final primer coat, so its a uniform color of primer?

Sorry for all of the questions, but i'd like this to turn out as best as possible.

Dupli-Color-Specialist
08-18-2008, 02:08 PM
I am going to start off my mentioning that there is no need for the Metallic clear you purchased. The Deep Blue is already a Metallic Paint so you can either return that quart or hang on to it for future projects. You will not need primer unless you are going over bare metal or body work. If you are going over the original OEM paint then a good scuffing with a Scotch Brite pad is all you will need.

1. how many cans of primer.

Little if any if going over original paint. Scuff the surface with a Scotch Brite pad. A gray one usually does the trick. Only use the primer if going over body work or bare metal.

2. how many cans of paint

Considering you are painting a Civic you will need about 3-4 quarts.

3. how many cans of metalic.

None. Deep Blue is a Metallic Paint. If you want more Metallic then 1-2 cans is all you will need for this. A light coat or 2 of the Metallic is all you need.

4. how many cans of clear.

This is what you don't want to skimp on. You want to build up the clear so you can wetsand smooth and buff.

5. should i also use a sealer primer, and if so how many cans. There isn't a need for this.

6. what is the proper procedure to paint the door jams, do you paint the exterior first then the door jams or have the doors open and mask it alll off?

You will want to paint the door jambs first then the exterior. and then you can clear everything at once. Your going to get some coarse overspray texture in the door jamb from painting the exterior so make sure you wetsand the door jambs and exterior prior to clear coat.

7. do you need to wetsand after every color coat?

Only if there are imperfections. Wetsanding the color coat before the clear is a must for a smooth finish.

8. how many color coats do you need?

Enough to achieve full even color. Usually 2-3.

9. do you need to wetsand after every clear coat?

Only if there are imperfections.

10. how many clear coats?

4-5 good coats. You want enough on there because you will be taking some back off when you wetsand and buff.

11. I have seen that some people use a primer coat and covering it with another color primer to sand to get the panels straight, should you do that before the final primer coat, so its a uniform color of primer?

One color of primer is always a good thing if you are going over multiple colored panels. If your car is currently one color and the original OEM paint then a primer is not needed. Since you are going with the Deep Blue, it is dark enough where you will get even coverage. If you had a black car and wanted to change it to white then I would suggest using the primer because it would take less coats to achieve even coverage.

I hope this helps.

1997civic
08-24-2008, 03:56 AM
Thanks for the reply! um.. the car has a LOT OF body work being done, about 6 HUGE dents that are in primer already, and a lot of rust repair that was done (yeah.. rust on a 97 ouch..) so i'm thinking of sanding down the oem paint down to its primer to blend it with the spotted primer. Or should i just primer the whole thing?

Dupli-Color-Specialist
08-25-2008, 03:05 PM
Thanks for the reply! um.. the car has a LOT OF body work being done, about 6 HUGE dents that are in primer already, and a lot of rust repair that was done (yeah.. rust on a 97 ouch..) so i'm thinking of sanding down the oem paint down to its primer to blend it with the spotted primer. Or should i just primer the whole thing?


You may want to prime the entire car with the Paint Shop primer to give it one uniform coat. Make sure you have finished with all body work and filler primer work. If you spray the PS primer straight over body filler, you might get bleed through.

Thanks

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